yeah, lol, youre gonna have to try me again, im not quite sure i get the question. which
900 point move?

as for AAPL, i think its interesting till 120, then it would scare the hell out of me.

Ryan,
Just curious...
Technically, did the 900 point rise a bit ago mean anything to the momentum stocks that
participated (aapl and similar)?
Does the rise up (any stock that participated but I noticed aapl's rise in particular -
116.) mean anything in relation to its subsequent fall?
Such as whatever range a stock went to would be its resistance/natural place before
earnings or exceptional news?
I know this is convoluted as a question - but so is trying to make entries into stocks,
for me anyway.
Thanks.

runnin, you need to get more people asking questions IMO

This is too go of a forum for those of use who are trying to learn. We really need to try
and keep it going. I really thought it was just starting to gets it's legs and then all of
the sudden it died. I thought I might try and give it another shot and see if we could
give it new life. So for everyone like me that is trying to learn from all the exerience
and knowledge on this site, lets give it another effort!
Thanks, Runnin'

Ryan.
It finally clicked - thank you. That was hard to grasp. See - it's good to put BIDU in
every conversation (humor, humor).

kos - MA's. yeah,, its all preference. id say the 20, 50, 200 are the most watched on all
time frames. i have one chart that has fibonacci numbers so, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89
etc,

got my mayan calendar set up, 4, 13, 20, 52, 91, 260, 365 etc.

on 30 min bars i use the 65 MA (equal to the 5 MA)

weekly bars, i use what i call tag teams because i dont think buying on an MA except for
the 20, 50, 200 is a very good idea.

10 wk and 13 wk, 20 wk and 26 wk. these help me get a bit of perspective. i think thats
MOSTLY what MA's are for. perspective on the trend. which is why everyone has their own
little numbers. as long as you have a shorter term, intermediate, and longer term MA in
your chart, you should be able to grasp the trend.

thats how i play anyway

madeline - yeah like peter was saying, it IS something you buy. its **like** buying calls
on BIDU. so you buy a 250 call on BIDU, expiring in october. it would be like buying $SPX
1200 calls. those "calls" are future contracts. with commodities, buying the oct 100
conract for curde is buying crude, youre just giving a timeframe on it. by expiration you
either have to trade out of it, or exercise it like options.

that is what the futures are, they ARE the $SPX but it is traded round the clock 5 days a
week, like crude, like forex.

Ryan
I've wondered this for years. Each investor, trader, analyst, website & book has it's
opinion of what MAs to use on a stock. 9, 10, 18, 21, 25, 36, 38, 100, 180, yada yada
yada.

Based on open, close, high, low, offset or not, expodential, double, triple, etc.

Obviously we eventually all use the ones we become most comfortable with.

O.K. 50 and 200 are written in stone, but when charting, is a there a rhyme or reason to
the others?

A person can go bonkers trying innumerable MAs on one stock and each stock is different.
What's your take on all of this?

Thank you - and good night.

Ms M asked:
>>So...do you mean a contract for a later date bought in the day and then it posts at
night as "futures"?

No. You've traded options so you're aware of "expiration date". When I refer to settlement
date below, it is the same as "expiration date".

Futures contracts trade continuously. Let's say the "expiration date" is the third Friday
in October. You buy the SP500 contract at 10:30 a.m., then buy the same contract again at
11:30, both those contracts will have the same expiration date. You are betting that the
SP500 cash will close above the "strike" price for the futures contract.

I'm using some option language here because I know you're more familiar with it